--- title: TRIUMPH ADLER Alphatronic PC models P1/P2 categories: - Computers types: - Professional Computer origins: - Germany years: - '1980' cpus: - 8085A params: name: Alphatronic PC models P1/P2 company: /companies/triumph-adler company_name: TRIUMPH ADLER specs: - label: NAME value: Alphatronic PC models P1/P2 - label: MANUFACTURER value: Triumph Adler - label: TYPE value: Professional Computer - label: ORIGIN value: Germany - label: YEAR value: '1980' - label: END OF PRODUCTION value: Unknown - label: BUILT IN LANGUAGE value: Basic 80, Fortran and Pascal delivered on disk - label: KEYBOARD value: Full-stroke keyboard with numeric keypad - label: CPU value: 8085A - label: SPEED value: Unknown - label: CO-PROCESSOR value: Unknown - label: RAM value: 48 kb, upgradable to 64 kb - label: VRAM value: Unknown - label: ROM value: Unknown - label: TEXT MODES value: 80 x 24 - label: GRAPHIC MODES value: Unknown - label: COLORS value: Unknown - label: SOUND value: Unknown - label: SIZE / WEIGHT value: Unknown - label: I/O PORTS value: V24/RS232c, IEEE48 port - label: BUILT IN MEDIA value: 2 x 5''1/4 disk-drives (160 kb each) - label: OS value: MOS (Micro Operating System) - label: POWER SUPPLY value: PSU built-in - label: PERIPHERALS value: Memory expansion (64k), 2 alternative disk-drives (785kb each), Hard-disk (5Mb) - label: PRICE value: 5008 (France, 1981) tabs: - photos photos: - title: ALPHATRONIC subtitle: '' text: '' image: null comments: - author: Helmut Wiertalla (Deutschland) date: Friday 14th August 2015 text: |- Hallo$ Alphatronic P2 Maschine,\ dazu ev. hilft der Link. http://www.waltroper-aufbruch.de/AlphatronicP2.php mal auf der Seite etwas umsehen. MOS Beschreibung, Treiberbeschreibungen (Floppy,Display)\ und ein Boot-Kochzept ev. anwendbar.\ Eine funktionierende P2 Alphatronic und schreibbare Disketten sollte\ man haben. Mit YMODEM 80 Programm von mir - erstlich entwickelt und\ ein Boot- Kochrezept dort zu finden. Viel Erfolg und Grüße\ Helmut Wiertalla - author: Jaume date: Tuesday 14th April 2015 text: |- Hello. I have an Alphatronic P2 and i need technical information and software for it. Do you have this machine yet? If you have it, could you help me, please?\ Obtaining information about these machines is very (impossible) in my country.\ Thank you very much. - author: peter marchese (UK) date: Monday 6th January 2014 text: |- I have a twin floppy Triumph Adler in working condition that I purchased in 1980 as the IBM''s started to make them obsolete, I was still using it to a small extent in 1995 for weather satellite orbit prediction.\ My first computer training was on the Siemens R10/30 series which I believe was more or less a clone of the IBM360 with washing machine size 250MB drives.\ When I could get time on the Siemens machine I could write basic programs which I later transferred to the CP/M machine - author: Michael Titgemeyer (Germany) date: Sunday 4th December 2011 text: P1/P2 where the base for P3/P4 - CPU speed was 3Mhz (Intel 8085 with 6Mhz xtal). It was based on a computer developed by SKS (Steinmetz and Krischke Datentechnik in Karlsruhe, Germany). TA did a redesign of most boards to bring it in production. Floppy disks where double sided, 40tracks. As I was working in the dev. dept. for this computer, I do have some few software information, mostly the MOS and the CP/M Bios - author: jomoca (Barcelona (Spain)) date: Sunday 21st February 2010 text: Aún guardo algunos viejos catálogos e información de Alphatronic en español.... moya.moya@terra.es - author: Colin (UK) date: Wednesday 26th March 2008 text: |- Hi I used to sell these (in East Anglia) - both the P1 and the P2. They were really good business machines at the time. I wonder if any of my old customers have still got them? I'll maybe ring around and see :-) - author: Marko (Germany) date: Monday 26th November 2007 text: |- I've got some disks as teledisk images and the original manual in German. If you need some info, mail me. - author: Frank (Germany) date: Monday 19th February 2007 text: |- I got an Alphatronic P2 !!\ I'm really glad to I could find one - becaus this computer was the first computer i ever had. What's missing - I didn't get the system disk with it.\ Is there anyone who could help me with a copy of the system disk ? Thanks\ Frank - author: Kjeld Rasmussen (danmark) date: Sunday 13rd August 2006 text: I have some progam I have make My alphatronic are not working I like to fine one the are working - author: Ron (England) date: Wednesday 4th January 2006 text: The Alphatronic P2 does use CP/M but but the Base Address is at 4000H not 100H as Standard CP/M this means that programs have to be assembled to that address. The disks are single sided, the drives can be single sided or double sided, which are treated as two separate drives. As I haven't touched my machine for many years I would have to search my records for more information. The machine is so strange that many were just dumped. They were the bane of my life, I passed on all the information to some one in Cambridgeshire many years ago. - author: Marco (Italy) date: Saturday 11th January 2003 text: |- Hi anibody has some information about this computer? (Alphatronic P2)\ I have the pc but no documentation or disk !\ It boots normaly and enter in the monitor program but so noting happens, no basic or operating sistem.\ Please someone help me ! I can't find anthing on the web ! oc_id: 484 source: url: https://web.archive.org/web/20230330073605/http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=484 date: '2023-03-30' --- This first Alphatronic computer by the german company Triumph-Adler is targeted for the business and education. The main software applications were for management, billing, wordprocessing (TRENDTEXT), calculation, etc... The Alphatronic uses the MOS (Micro Operating System) operating system. There were in fact two models available: P1 and P2. The Alphatronic PC/P1 had one floppy drive, and the PC/P2 had two. The picture beside seems to be a PC/P2. There was SKS/BASIC on Disc, startable by MOS directly. It was a pure Microsoft BASIC, comparable to GW-BASIC without Graphics. There was a modified version of CP/M 2.2 for this machine, and for this you could get BASIC 80 and the Siemens Macro ASSEMBLER. The native double disk-drives (160 KB each) could be replaced by higher capacity ones (785 KB each). A hard-disk (5 MB) was also available, as well as a memory expansion (64 KB). --- **Contributors:** Volker Birk