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title: Oric 2 PC / PC 2 Oric
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- Computers
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    url: https://web.archive.org/web/20211202071518/http://www.old-computers.com/magazine/view.asp?a=12
    date: '2021-12-02'
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<table> <tr> <td> <h1><img height="24" src="/media/magazine/articles/12/romuald.gif" width="117"/><br/> <img height="91" src="/media/magazine/articles/12/logo_oric.gif" width="185"/></h1> <h1>ORIC 2 PC / PC 2 ORIC</h1> <p><b>If you want to backup your old oric disks (from Microdisc or Jasmin drives) on your PC, or if you want to have those disk images (the Oric Megademo for instance) found on the web back to a real disk to use them on a real oric, it's really easy.</b></p> <p>In fact there are two ways to do that:</p> <ul> <li>using a 3.5" drive linked to your Microdisc or Jasmin unit </li><li>using a 3" drive on your PC </li> </ul> <h2> </h2> <h2>&gt; 3.5" drive linked to your Microdisc or Jasmin unit</h2> <p>The first may be more interesting if you want to use images back on a real oric (but could also be used the other way). You'll find a lot of images on the web and you'll realize that those 3" disks are not that easy to find - except if you have a friend with an old amstrad laying around. But at the same time you could well blow your microric or jasmin disk controller if you don't do it properly - believe me I have one here which went through this. <br/> If you really want a 3.5" drive on your oric have a look at back issues of the <a href="http://ceomag.ifrance.com/ceomag/" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><b>CEO mag</b></a> where they explain in deep the way to add one to your Microdisc or Jasmin Unit.</p> <p>Either way the method to have oric disk read or written with your PC will be the same...</p> <h2> </h2> <h2>&gt; 3" drive on your PC</h2> <p>If you prefer to add a 3" drive to your PC, read below...</p> <div>- Needed Stuff - </div> <p>Here is a short list of what you'll need:</p> <table> <tr> <td> <p><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/psu_lead.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/psu_leads.jpg"/></a><br/> A PC power supply Y splitter </p> </td> <td> <p><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/back3.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/back3s.jpg"/></a><br/> A Slave Microdisc Unit<br/> (a microdisc unit with no floppy<br/> controller inside) </p> </td> </tr> </table> <p>[Note: if you don't have a Microdisc Slave unit, it might be more difficult the perform the transfer. The Microdisc drives are Hitachi 3". Amstrad 6128 3" drives have different connectors (+ the mecanism might not be compatible). Maybe the Amstrad external floppy disk has a compatible connector, I don't have one to check. If you happen to have the transfer working without using an Hitachi drive let me know...].</p> <br/> <h3>- Let's Go -</h3> <p>To transfer files, you must first link your 3" drive to the PC. There are 2 ways to do it:</p> <ul> <li>sporadic use: you just want to plug a 3" drive to back up your disk from times to times (so you will remove it when the transfer is complete) </li><li>regular use: you prefer to keep it in your PC because you often transfer files </li> </ul> <p><b>Depending on your choice you may have to skip some steps below. You will be warned when necessary.</b></p> <table> <tbody> <tr> <td><b>1 -</b> Open your Microdisc unit (four screws under the unit) and you'll then be able to see this:<br/> <br/> [Note: if you have a pcb + another cable on top of your drive, it means it's a Microdisc Master unit, you may want to keep it safe because it's the one that is necessary to boot a disk on your real oric.] </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/inside_2.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/inside_2s.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>2 -</b> Disconnect the power supply plug and the floppy cable and remove the 3" drive from the box (it is not secured so it should come easily). Note the 5.25-drive style connector. </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_back.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_backs.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>3 -</b> Remove the 3" drive shielding (there are 2 screws, one on each side) </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_screw.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_screws.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>4 -</b> Now you must configure your 3" drive (letter select). Whatever use will be made of the drive (sporadic or regular) configure it as a <b>B:</b> drive.<br/> Set the dipswitch 1 - <b>On</b> and dipswitches 0, 2 and 3 - <b>Off</b>. <br/> [Note: setting the switch 0 - <b>On</b> and 1 - <b>Off</b> would configure the drive as <b>A:</b>].<br/> Now you can put back the drive shielding. If you have chosen the <b>regular</b> use jump to step <b>8</b>. <br/> [Note: ordinary 3.5" drive have a <b>B:</b>-drive factory-set up. They are <b>seen</b> as <b>A:</b> drive on your PC because of the cable twist before the last connector] </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_select.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/drive_selects.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>5 -</b> Plug the Y splitter into the drive power connector. </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/new_psu.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/new_psus.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>6 -</b> Re-connect the drive to the Microdisc floppy cable. </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/new_psu_2.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/new_psu_2s.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>7 -</b> You can now put back the Microdisc unit cover (hope you didn't lose the screws). When putting it back try to have the power leads going through the little space between the floppy cable connector and the top of the Microdisc box (there's room for it without having to cut the box). </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/back_final.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/back_finals.jpg"/></a> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>8 -</b> Now the easy stuff... Open your PC tower. </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>9 -</b> You now have to connect the floppy cable to the 3" drive, it will be different depending on your <b>sporadic</b> or <b>regular</b> option.<br/> <ul> <li><b>sporadic</b> : you will then use your 3" drive instead of your 3.5" drive. So disconnect your floppy cable from your 3.5" drive and use it to connect the 3" drive to your PC motherboard using the last connector of your cable (after the twist so the <b>B:</b> setup of the drive will be seen as <b>A:</b> by the PC). Find a spare power supply plug and connect it to the 3" drive. </li><li><b>regular</b> : you will use your 3" drive as a second floppy drive (<b>B:</b>). Since the 3" drive bus is like a 5.25 one, you just need an old floppy cable with both types of connectors. And even if you don't have one then you just have to unscrew the cable from the Microdisc slave unit to use it as an interface to a modern floppy drive cable with only one type of connector. Once the cable problem is solved, you need to connect it to the PC motherboard before the twist of the cable (so between the motherboard and the twist). From motherboard to last drive (3.5") you will have:<br/> motherboard -&gt; 3" drive (<b>B:</b>) -&gt; twist of the cable -&gt; 3.5" drive (<b>A:</b>) Find a spare power supply plug and connect it to the 3" drive. You have now two options, either trying to fit the 3" drive in one bay of your PC, or keep it on the tower (see picture). The latter is not very nice that's why I decided to use the whole Microdisc unit as a standalone unit. </li> </ul> </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/readdsk_setup.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/readdsk_setups.jpg"/></a><br/> <b>Regular</b> top-of-the-box version </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>10 -</b> Switch on your PC and enter the Bios Setup. Under the Bios configure your 3" drive as a <b>5.25" 360 KB</b> drive (it's the <b>A:</b> drive if you have chosen the <b>sporadic</b> option or <b>B:</b> for <b>regular</b>). </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <h3> </h3> <h3>- File transfers -</h3> <p>Once the setup is ok you have to transfer the files...</p> <p>To do that you will have to use <b>Readdsk</b> and <b>Writedsk</b>. You can download them from <a href="http://oric.free.fr/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Fabrice Francès's website</a>. You'll also find other utilities and of course the Oric emulator <b>Euphoric</b>... </p> <p>These utilities work with with Microdisc and Jasmin disks/images without problems. But a Jasmin disk image written back to a real disk will only work on a Jasmin setup. It will be the same for a Microdisc disk image. To avoid problems (and waste of time) check the image under Euphoric, it will prevent you to write a disk without having the proper setup.<br/> <br/> You will not have such a problem if you want to backup your oric disks on your PC since Euphoric handles both Jasmin and Microdisc disk images (but beware check Euphoric's manual to see the way to handle those images under the emulator).<br/> <br/> Also remember that all disks are not boot-able. It means that you may have succeeded in writing back or backing up a disk without being able to boot it immediately. If it's a boot disk it will work without problems. If not you may have to boot the oric with a boot disk and then swap it with your new disk. </p> <table> <tbody> <tr> <td><b>1 -</b> Create a drawer in which you will copy both programs and the disks images you found on the internet (to be used with writedsk). </td> </tr> <tr> <td><b>2 -</b> Once done restart your computer in <b>DOS mode</b> and go to your drawer with the utilities and disk images. <br/> [Note: you could use the utilities in a dos window but it would then be slower and not as accurate as in a pure DOS mode] </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <h3>Writedsk</h3> We want to write to a real oric disk the disk image of the <b>Oric Megademo</b> (you can find it on <a href="http://www.oric-international.org/" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><b>oric-international.org</b></a>). <br/> <br/> [Note: writedsk will only work with disk images, these are often files with the <b>.dsk</b> extension. It will not work with tape images, ie <b>.tap</b> files. If you wish to do that you must first have your files extracted from the <b>.tap</b> image and then have it copied in a disk image, you can use Euphoric to do that]<br/> <ul> <li>at the DOS prompt you can enter <b>writedsk</b> to see the command usage </li><li>insert a blank 3" floppy in your drive (check that it is write enabled)<br/> [Note: You may have to format it first on your oric setup before using it on your PC to avoid problems] </li><li>enter <b>writedsk vip3.dsk a:</b> or <b>writedsk vip3.dsk b:</b> depending on the letter associated with your 3" drive. </li><li>at the prompt type <b>Y</b> and press <b>ENTER</b> </li><li>it's now writing the disk image back to your disk. If there is an error, try with another blank 3" floppy. </li><li>once finished you can now use that disk with your oric... </li><li>to return to windows enter <b>exit</b> </li> </ul> </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/writedsk_1.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/writedsk_1s.jpg"/></a><br/> Click to enlarge </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <h3>Readdsk</h3> You want to backup your old oric disks to your PC tu use them under Euphoric.<br/> By the way if you find some nice programs (unknown programs, type-ins, your own programs) on these disk images of ours it would be nice to share them with the oric community. Then contact me or upload those images on <a href="ftp://ftp.oric-international.org/">Oric International's ftp</a>. <ul> <li>at the DOS prompt you can enter <b>readdsk</b> to see the command usage </li><li>insert your 3" oric floppy in your drive<br/> </li><li>enter <b>readdsk mydisk.dsk a:</b> or <b>readdsk mydisk.dsk b:</b> depending on the letter associated with your 3" drive. </li><li>it's now backing up the disk image to your PC. It will stop when no more tracks will be found </li><li>once finished you can now use that disk with Euphoric... </li><li>to return to windows enter <b>exit</b> </li> </ul> </td> <td><a href="/media/magazine/articles/12/readdsk_1.jpg"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/readdsk_1s.jpg"/></a><br/> Click to enlarge </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p>Here you are. Enjoy...</p> <p>____________________________</p> <p>Article written by Romual Liné &lt;romualdl@oric-international.org&gt;</p> <p>LINKS:<br/> <a href="http://www.oric-international.org/" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/bar_oi.jpg"/></a><br/>    <a href="http://www.defence-force.org/computing/oric/" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img src="/media/magazine/articles/12/bar_df.jpg"/></a> </p> </td> </tr> </table>