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Apple LISA / LISA 2 - Mac XL
Computers
Professional Computer
U.S.A.
1983
Motorola MC 68000
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LISA / LISA 2 - Mac XL /companies/apple Apple
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NAME LISA / LISA 2 - Mac XL
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MANUFACTURER Apple
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TYPE Professional Computer
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ORIGIN U.S.A.
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YEAR January 1983
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END OF PRODUCTION August 1986
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BUILT IN LANGUAGE Lisa OS
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KEYBOARD Full-stroke 77-key with numeric keypad
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CPU Motorola MC 68000
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SPEED 5 MHz
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RAM 1 MB (2MB max. via 3rd party upgrade)
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ROM 16 KB
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TEXT MODES 40 x 32 bit-mapped
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GRAPHIC MODES 720 x 364 dots
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COLORS Monochrome (12'' built-in monitor)
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SOUND Continuously Variable Slope Demodulator (CVSD)
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SIZE / WEIGHT 35 (W) x 47.5 (D) x 38.8 (H) cm / 15.2 Kg
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I/O PORTS 2 x RS232, 3 proprietary slots, Parallel (only on original Lisa),
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BUILT IN MEDIA Lisa : two 5.25'' floppy drives (871 KB)\ Lisa 2/Max XL : one Sony 3.5'' floppy drive (400 KB)
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OS Lisa Office System or Mac OS (Lisa 2/Mac XL only)
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POWER SUPPLY Built-in 150W power supply unit
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PERIPHERALS 5 MB or 10 MB external hard disk
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PRICE Lisa: $9,995 (USA, 1983)
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THE APPLE LISA 2 notice the 3.5" unit instead of the two 5.25") null
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THE APPLE LISA 1 WITH THE 5MB PROFILE HARDDISK null
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LISA 1 FACEPLATE null
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FIRST GRAPHICS DEMO The first LISA graphics demonstration Title : Effects of impurities on a disk surface From left to right :\ - Magnetic head suspended at 250 microns above the magnetic disk, spinning at 80 km/h\ - Hair\ - Fingerprint\ - Dust\ - Cigarette ash null
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FRENCH AD (DEC. 1983) null
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LISA ADVERT He is rich (enough to buy a LISA !), he is relaxed... He is the typical advertising executive of the 80's. null
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LISA 1 PIN null
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AST MEMORY BOARD 2 MB extension memory board made by AST Research Inc. and called RamStok. Only 1.5 MB is intalled here. null
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Executor http://www.ardi.com/ Windows Demonstration version of a commercial software (MS DOS & Win95)
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Gemulator http://www.emulators.com/ Windows A commercial Software which emulates the Atari ST/TT and the Mac 128/Plus/2 (Win95 / Win NT)
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IDLE Icomplete Draft of a Lisa Emulator http://sourceforge.net/projects/idle-lisa-emu Windows IDLE (Incomplete Draft of a Lisa Emulator) : (yet another) Apple Lisa emulator project
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LisaEm http://lisa.sunder.net/ Windows Same as Apple lisa emulator for unix but ported to windows
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PearPC http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ Windows PearPC is an architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator capable of running most PowerPC operating systems.
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SoftMac http://www.emulators.com/ Windows good 68K Emulator For Windows
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Apple Lisa Emulator http://lisa.sunder.net/ Unix / Linux Lisa emulator for Unix, still in development stage...
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Executor http://www.ardi.com/ Unix / Linux Demo version of a commercial software (Linux / NextStep)
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vMac - The Virtual Macintosh Emulator Project http://www.leb.net/vmac/ Other platform
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Basilisk II http://basilisk.cebix.net/ Multiplatform Basilisk II is an Open Source 68k Macintosh emulator. Good emulator, runs on several platforms, even Amiga
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Mini vMac http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/ Multiplatform Mini vMac, a spin off of the program vMac, emulates a Macintosh Plus and Macintosh SE. So far it works on Macintosh OS, Microsoft Windows, and the X Window System.
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Apple History http://www.apple-history.com/ History of Apple computers with detail information about all of the computers to come out of Apple.
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Applefritter http://www.applefritter.com Excellent site about all Apple models,clones,prototypes,etc... A must see !
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CMQ - Groupes d'usagers Apple http://www.cmq.qc.ca/cmq.html (french)
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Homepage of Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/index.html A lot of interesting Mac links, for example "How To Transfer Files From PC to MAC "
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Jag's House http://www.jagshouse.com/ Lot of info on all non PowerMac models
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Lisa Spotlight http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/extras/spotlights/lisa Rare information and pictures of Lisa 1 & 2 hardware and software
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Lisa's World !! (japanese) http://www.goodwill.co.jp/oldmac/lisa.html
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Low End Mac http://www.lowendmac.com Great site with a full catalog of ALL old macintoshes.
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Mac Forums at MacForumz.com http://www.MacForumz.com Mac forums, a resource on the latest and greatest, as well as vintage, Macintosh hardware, software, and internet. Free registration.
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MacDebate http://www.macdebate.com Macintosh discussion forum
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The Vintage Mac Museum http://www.d4.dion.ne.jp/~motohiko/ Nice dedicated website with tons of screenshots !
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Titlemax - Apple products https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/lifestyle/every-product-apple-has-made-so-far/ Nice graphic of every product Apple Has Made So Far (thanks Lily)
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Web Wiz CAPTCHA http://www.webwizcaptcha.com Discussion of Macintosh software system
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LISA OWNER'S GUIDE http://www.1000bit.net/support/manuali/manuali.asp null [**LISA OWNER'S GUIDE**](http://www.1000bit.net/support/manuali/manuali.asp)written by Apple  compiled/archived by 1000bit / Michele Perini\  type of document : PDF\  size : 7 MB\  source : [www.1000bit.net](http://www.1000bit.net)
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APPLE LISA HARDWARE MANUAL http://www.1000bit.net/support/manuali/manuali.asp null [**APPLE LISA HARDWARE MANUAL**](http://www.1000bit.net/support/manuali/manuali.asp)written by Apple / Mark Baumwell  compiled/archived by David Craig\  type of document : PDF\  size : 18,3 MB\  source : [www.1000bit.net](http://www.1000bit.net)
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Apple Lisa commercial - Kevin Kostner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaiC_hBQfAs Length: 59 s
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Apple Lisa introduction video http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=2642365871934222465&hl=fr Length: 15 min 46 s
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Apple Lisa presentation for a TV program filmed in 1984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4BlmsN4q2I Length: 18 min 32 s
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Using an Apple Lisa http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8523205173324245268&hl=fr Length: 6 min 07 s
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Guitardo (Brasil) Wednesday 24th March 2021 Why a site like this doesn''t'' have an article about XEROX ALTO?
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Anton Kashirin (Miami, FL USA) Friday 13rd November 2015 Hello, I am doing a project on the apple Lisa and the GUI I thought it would be great that I could interview someone with good knowledge on the topic and you seem to be a great person with a lot of knowledge of Apple could I interview you in a brief email interview? Sincerely Anton Kashirin Contact pl212401@ahschool.com
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Gus Carrau (Argentina) Friday 18th October 2013 In 1984 I bought a LISA 2/5 with a 5Mb profile disc and a dot matrix printer. The system was revolutionary for this year and some Microsoft SW were released. I used the first versions of Excel and Words that were very useful. It is still working although it is a museum device for electronic design.
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DABLIK (Czech republic) Tuesday 13rd April 2010 HEllo. i want a old computer. please sends mail to danielsaf@dablik.cz
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David Werling (USA) Monday 15th December 2008 While it was billed as an expensive, overpriced executive tool, for which I got in some hot water with the East Providence, RI city council, I actually purchased the system in 1983 with a grant to do what our dumb terminals on the city''s UNIX mini could not do$graphics. I was the senior city planner responsible for producing the stats, graphs, maps and plans for the city. With the LISA, I and the in-house graphics artist produced our final documents probably saving the city the cost of the "expensive" Lisa. It was, however, a little hard panning around the small screen and the dot-matrix proofs where not much to look at because desktop publishing with the Laserwriter had not been invented yet.
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Peter F. (Suffolk, UK) Wednesday 23rd January 2008 The software company I worked for had one of the very first Apple Lisas. It had two profile hard drives wobbling on the top and run an Apple Pascal compiler.\ The on/off switch was software controlled and took ages to close all the open files as it powered down.\ Also the computer had its own unique serial number that you could use to 'lock' and written application to run on (ie software piracy)\ I also remember the fabled twiggy drives and disks but these were quickly updated to these new fangled 3.5" disks.
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Werner-T Niemann (Cologne (Germany)) Tuesday 26th June 2007 I saw this computer in 1984 and for, I thougt this is a piece of the future. Compared to other computers of this time, it was a revolution. I was a beginning of a new era.
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Renzin (USA) Wednesday 3rd August 2005 A great machine. I heared one in perfect condition might go for $10,000 USD (the origanal price) if it was in perfect conditon. I recently saw one on eBay for $999 USD!!!! It was in reasonable condition with 1 floppy and a SCSI hard disk.
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Jhon Deere (tennesee) Tuesday 24th May 2005 OMG!!!! THE LISA IS THE BEST COMPUTER IN THE WORLD!!!!!
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In 1979, Apple had seen a need to complete the Apple II series. After a visit to the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) where he saw lots of new technologies (Ethernet network, GUI, OOP & Laser Printers), Steve Jobs (then chairman of Apple) decided to launch a graphical computer. After lots of work (and two rejected prototypes along the way), the Lisa was revealed in January 1983.

Lisa was the original code-name. Supposedly, the Lisa was named after Steve Jobs' eldest daughter, Lisa Nicole. The Lisa project cost over $50 million and was the result of more than 200 person-years of research and development. It was supposed to be the Next Big Thing. It was not however the first personal computer to use a Graphical User Interface (GUI). Several Xerox systems developped in Palo Alto, utilized the STAR operating system. STAR contained a very innovative icon-based interface as well as a built-in word processor and calculator.

Contrary to the "legend", Lisa was not the ancestor of the Macintosh. Lisa and Macintosh were two distinct projects. The original Lisa couldn't use Macintosh programs and Macintosh couldn't run Lisa software. The LISA OS (Office System) was a true preemptive multitasking operating system.

But, because of its very high price ($9,999.99 USD in 1983!) and because of competition with the Macintosh, the Lisa was one of Apple's biggest flops (alongside the Apple 3 and the Newton!). A new version of the Lisa was presented in January 1984, the Lisa 2. It had virtually same features but used a 3.5" 800 KB floppy drive instead of the old 5.25" "twiggy" floppy drives.
Three versions of the Lisa 2 were successively released:
- Lisa 2 basic version which had rather less memory (512 KB instead of 1 MB) and storage capability than the first Lisa,
- Lisa 2/5, the nearest to the Lisa 1 at approx. half the original price, was sold with a 5 MB 'Profile' hard disk unit,
- Lisa 2/10, which offered up to 10 MB of storage on an internal hard-disk.
All Lisa's were expandable systems thanks to three slots in the back, mainly used for RAM expansion cards. Up to 7 drives hooked up at once on the same interface.

In 1985, the Lisa lost its name and was renamed "Macintosh XL" (the Lisa 2 could become a Mac XL through the replacement of a ROM chip on the inside of the machine), its ROM and its display was modified to use the Macintosh Operating System and was presented as a development system for the Macintosh (Don't forget - in 1985 there was no hard disk available for the Macintosh). The Macintosh XL was sold until 1986 but became obsolete when the new "True" Macintoshes were launched (Macintosh II and Mac SE in 1987).

After the Mac Plus came out, all owners of Lisa's and previous Macintoshes were offered the option to exchange their old computers for the new Plus (for a fee of course).


David Curbow adds:
The LISA was originally designed as a command line user interface. After the Star was demo'd at the NCC 81 conference they went back and redesigned it. But, because the display hardware used rectangular pixels (great for text but not for grapics) the screen always looked a bit odd.