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title: TRIUMPH ADLER Alphatronic PC models P1/P2
categories:
- Computers
types:
- Professional Computer
origins:
- Germany
years:
- '1980'
cpus:
- 8085A
params:
name: Alphatronic PC models P1/P2
company: /companies/triumph-adler
company_name: TRIUMPH ADLER
specs:
- label: NAME
value: Alphatronic PC models P1/P2
- label: MANUFACTURER
value: Triumph Adler
- label: TYPE
value: Professional Computer
- label: ORIGIN
value: Germany
- label: YEAR
value: '1980'
- label: END OF PRODUCTION
value: Unknown
- label: BUILT IN LANGUAGE
value: Basic 80, Fortran and Pascal delivered on disk
- label: KEYBOARD
value: Full-stroke keyboard with numeric keypad
- label: CPU
value: 8085A
- label: SPEED
value: Unknown
- label: CO-PROCESSOR
value: Unknown
- label: RAM
value: 48 kb, upgradable to 64 kb
- label: VRAM
value: Unknown
- label: ROM
value: Unknown
- label: TEXT MODES
value: 80 x 24
- label: GRAPHIC MODES
value: Unknown
- label: COLORS
value: Unknown
- label: SOUND
value: Unknown
- label: SIZE / WEIGHT
value: Unknown
- label: I/O PORTS
value: V24/RS232c, IEEE48 port
- label: BUILT IN MEDIA
value: 2 x 5''1/4 disk-drives (160 kb each)
- label: OS
value: MOS (Micro Operating System)
- label: POWER SUPPLY
value: PSU built-in
- label: PERIPHERALS
value: Memory expansion (64k), 2 alternative disk-drives (785kb each), Hard-disk (5Mb)
- label: PRICE
value: 5008 (France, 1981)
tabs:
- photos
photos:
- title: ALPHATRONIC
subtitle: ''
text: ''
image: null
comments:
- author: Helmut Wiertalla (Deutschland)
date: Friday 14th August 2015
text: |-
Hallo$
Alphatronic P2 Maschine,\
dazu ev. hilft der Link.
http://www.waltroper-aufbruch.de/AlphatronicP2.php
mal auf der Seite etwas umsehen.
MOS Beschreibung, Treiberbeschreibungen (Floppy,Display)\
und ein Boot-Kochzept ev. anwendbar.\
Eine funktionierende P2 Alphatronic und schreibbare Disketten sollte\
man haben.
Mit YMODEM 80 Programm von mir - erstlich entwickelt und\
ein Boot- Kochrezept dort zu finden.
Viel Erfolg und Grüße\
Helmut Wiertalla
- author: Jaume
date: Tuesday 14th April 2015
text: |-
Hello.
I have an Alphatronic P2 and i need technical information and software for it. Do you have this machine yet? If you have it, could you help me, please?\
Obtaining information about these machines is very (impossible) in my country.\
Thank you very much.
- author: peter marchese (UK)
date: Monday 6th January 2014
text: |-
I have a twin floppy Triumph Adler in working condition that I purchased in 1980 as the IBM''s started to make them obsolete, I was still using it to a small extent in 1995 for weather satellite orbit prediction.\
My first computer training was on the Siemens R10/30 series which I believe was more or less a clone of the IBM360 with washing machine size 250MB drives.\
When I could get time on the Siemens machine I could write basic programs which I later transferred to the CP/M machine
- author: Michael Titgemeyer (Germany)
date: Sunday 4th December 2011
text: P1/P2 where the base for P3/P4 - CPU speed was 3Mhz (Intel 8085 with 6Mhz xtal). It was based on a computer developed by SKS (Steinmetz and Krischke Datentechnik in Karlsruhe, Germany). TA did a redesign of most boards to bring it in production. Floppy disks where double sided, 40tracks. As I was working in the dev. dept. for this computer, I do have some few software information, mostly the MOS and the CP/M Bios
- author: jomoca (Barcelona (Spain))
date: Sunday 21st February 2010
text: Aún guardo algunos viejos catálogos e información de Alphatronic en español.... moya.moya@terra.es
- author: Colin (UK)
date: Wednesday 26th March 2008
text: |-
Hi
I used to sell these (in East Anglia) - both the P1 and the P2. They were really good business machines at the time.
I wonder if any of my old customers have still got them? I'll maybe ring around and see :-)
- author: Marko (Germany)
date: Monday 26th November 2007
text: |-
I've got some disks as teledisk images and the original manual in German.
If you need some info, mail me.
- author: Frank (Germany)
date: Monday 19th February 2007
text: |-
I got an Alphatronic P2 !!\
I'm really glad to I could find one - becaus this computer was the first computer i ever had.
What's missing - I didn't get the system disk with it.\
Is there anyone who could help me with a copy of the system disk ?
Thanks\
Frank
- author: Kjeld Rasmussen (danmark)
date: Sunday 13rd August 2006
text: I have some progam I have make My alphatronic are not working I like to fine one the are working
- author: Ron (England)
date: Wednesday 4th January 2006
text: The Alphatronic P2 does use CP/M but but the Base Address is at 4000H not 100H as Standard CP/M this means that programs have to be assembled to that address. The disks are single sided, the drives can be single sided or double sided, which are treated as two separate drives. As I haven't touched my machine for many years I would have to search my records for more information. The machine is so strange that many were just dumped. They were the bane of my life, I passed on all the information to some one in Cambridgeshire many years ago.
- author: Marco (Italy)
date: Saturday 11th January 2003
text: |-
Hi anibody has some information about this computer? (Alphatronic P2)\
I have the pc but no documentation or disk !\
It boots normaly and enter in the monitor program but so noting happens, no basic or operating sistem.\
Please someone help me ! I can't find anthing on the web !
oc_id: 484
source:
url: https://web.archive.org/web/20230330073605/http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=484
date: '2023-03-30'
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This first Alphatronic computer by the german company Triumph-Adler is targeted for the business and education. The main software applications were for management, billing, wordprocessing (TRENDTEXT), calculation, etc...
The Alphatronic uses the MOS (Micro Operating System) operating system.
There were in fact two models available: P1 and P2. The Alphatronic PC/P1 had one floppy drive, and the PC/P2 had two. The picture beside seems to be a PC/P2.
There was SKS/BASIC on Disc, startable by MOS directly. It was a pure Microsoft BASIC, comparable to GW-BASIC without Graphics.
There was a modified version of CP/M 2.2 for this machine, and for this you could get BASIC 80 and the Siemens Macro ASSEMBLER.
The native double disk-drives (160 KB each) could be replaced by higher capacity ones (785 KB each). A hard-disk (5 MB) was also available, as well as a memory expansion (64 KB).
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**Contributors:** Volker Birk